Episode 98: The World Doesn’t Need More Designers: A Conversation w/ Ruben Pater

In this conversation, Philip spends time with Ruben Pater, author of Caps Lock and the Politics of Design. Philip and Ruben discuss his latest book Caps Lock and how design plays a central role in normalizing capitalist institutions and thinking and why the world doesn’t need more designers. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: The Expanse (Amazon Prime) Ruben’s Drop: Octavia Butler The Dispossessed – Ursula K LeGuin

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The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.