Inside the wild, complex, obscure and incredibly important world of media buying

In the second of two episodes looking at New Zealand from Australia, Duncan Greive speaks to Paul McIntyre – founder and publisher at Mi3 – and one of the most credentialed journalists on advertising, tech and media in this part of the world. He wrote a story in late October which detailed the perverse incentives of the move to so-called "principal media", and how Australia's media looked at New Zealand as a cautionary tale to be avoided. We go deep into those topics and the tensions between content companies and big tech to try and get a deeper understanding of what has happened to advertising in recent years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Conversations about the intersections of media, culture and technology in New Zealand, hosted by Duncan Greive, founder of The Spinoff. We'd love it if you're able to take a few minutes to fill out this short survey about The Fold so we can learn more about our listening community and what you'd like to hear on this series. Please click here to fill out the survey.