38 Firefighters Hippel and Bettinson, and Crew Manager Stern
Firefighter Richard Hippel and Crew Manager Jamal Stern recall their attempt to rescue a bedridden man on the 16th floor. Plus, firefighter Harry Bettinson explains how he stayed with a family trapped on the ninth floor before bringing them to safety.Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk