Kirk vs. Picard. Skywalker vs. Kenobi. Adama vs. O’Neil. The debates over who was the greatest sci-fi captain/leader seem endless. In this episode, the Geeks defend their choices. Characters from our favorite franchises (Honorverse, Star Trek, WH40K, SG-1, Star Wars, Babylon 5) are compared to get at what traits a leader needs to have. The format is a little different, with the folks going head-to-head in a debate style session. Who wins? Host Cory Hollon has the answer at the end of the pod! Plus Blackholes, upcoming NavyCon news, and more. A huge thank you to our special guest, Mark Vandroff (@goatmaster89).