The Whole Marketer Ep146 - DEI with guest Ali Hanan

Episode #146. Today’s episode discusses the necessity of DEI and how as marketers we have a responsibility to reflect and shape the world around us – particularly as research* shows younger generations trust brands more than governments for being ethical and competent. Abby’s guest is Ali Hanan, founder and CEO of Creative Equals, an award winning organisation driving the new ROI - Return on Inclusion - for people, businesses and the planet. Ali set up Creative Equals after finding she was one of the few women in creative leadership through most of her 20 year career and the company works with clients such as PepsiCo, Reckitt, Abi InBev, H&M Group, McDonald's, Mars, Wrigley and more for inclusion-first marketing strategy and creative. In this episode, Ali shares her definition of DEI, the business case for DEI (supported by stats & facts), 5Rs for positive impact of DEI, navigating backlash and confronting unconscious biases and stereotypes. Plus her career highs and lows and advice for marketers of tomorrow. *Edelman Trust Barometer surveyed over 32,000 respondents in 28 countries. 00:00:00 Welcome and Introduction Defining DEI 00:04:25 Marketing as a Force for Good 00:09:00 Representation in Advertising 00:11:44 Inclusive Insights  00:14:04 Navigating Backlash in Marketing  00:19:12 Co-creation with Communities 00:21:05 Understanding Personal Biases 00:24:36 Identifying Bias in Teams  00:27:23 Researching Campaign Ideas  00:28:49 Benefits of Inclusive Marketing 00:30:07 The Impact of Trust in Brands  00:33:37 Career Highs and Lows  00:35:15 Challenges Facing DEI Initiatives  00:39:26 Advice for Future Marketers   Host: Abigail (Abby) Dixon FCIM/ICF | LinkedInGuest: Ali Hanan | LinkedIn The Whole Marketer podcast is here to support and empower the people behind brands and businesses with the latest technical tools, soft and leadership skills and personal understanding for a fulfilling marketing career and life as a whole. For more info go to www.thewholemarketer.com 

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