#38 Service with Will Luchford (who interviews Jon)
In this unique episode of The Neurodivergent Musician Podcast, the roles are reversed as the brilliant Will Luchford—coach and session guitarist—takes the interviewer’s seat. Together, we explore the concept of Service, diving deep into the heart of my latest album, podcast, and community. Will and I first crossed paths during Bloem De Wilde de Ligny and Nick Bottini’s Creative Recharge in 2023, and our connection has only grown stronger through shared experiences in Tom Fogg's Modern Man and Nick's Project Domino. In this interview, Will creates a safe and open space for me to unmask and unpack the challenges I’ve faced, especially when it comes to marketing my work authentically. This episode is an honest and raw conversation about embracing neurodiversity, the realities of ADHD, and the powerful impact of leading with service rather than sales. We reflect on building genuine connections in a world that often prioritises surface-level engagement. Listen in as we discuss: The discomfort of asking for support as a creative (like freezing during Project Domino’s supportive exercise). Reframing marketing and sales through the lens of service (moving away from "buy this" to building meaningful relationships). How neurodivergence shapes communication and creativity (impulsivity, the 'Verbal Express', and lifting mental rocks to find true answers). Will’s bus ride analogy (navigating ADHD communication as a series of meaningful stops along the journey). Will’s thoughtful questions and unique perspective allow me to explore my mission, movement, and message like never before. This is a conversation full of heart, humour, and profound insight into what it means to thrive as a neurodivergent creative. Let’s continue creating ripples together. Grab the new album at jonhartmusic.com/neurodivergent Are you a Neurodivergent Musician? If so, join our new free community at theneurodivergentmusician.co.uk