Malcolm Gladwell and David Epstein on the Keys to Success

You know the “10,000-Hour Rule.” But did you know it doesn’t work? That's what David Epstein argues in his new book, “Range: Why Generalists Triumph In A Specialized World.” In this episode, Epstein tells Malcolm Gladwell — a Next Big Idea Club curator and the man who popularized the 10,000-hour rule — that a broad range of experience is the best way to find success. Join the conversation at NextBigIdeaClub.com and get an additional 10% off with promo code PODCAST. Support us by supporting our sponsors! ZipRecruiter — Try ZipRecruiter for free at ZipRecruiter.com/BigIdea Away — For $20 off an Away suitcase, visit AwayTravel.com and use the promo code BIGIDEA Quartz — To get 50% off your first year membership, go to QZ.com, click become a member, and enter the code BIGIDEA

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The Next Big Idea is a weekly series of in-depth interviews with the world’s leading thinkers. Join our host, Rufus Griscom — along with our curators, Malcolm Gladwell, Adam Grant, Susan Cain, and Daniel Pink — for conversations that might just change the way you see the world. New episodes every Thursday.