Beyond The Doubt - Jeff Bell & Shala Nicely
In episode 11 of The OCD Stories podcast I interviewed Jeff Bell & Shala Nicely. Jeff and Shala have a personal and professional journey with OCD, and have come together to create Beyond The Doubt. Show notes: Shala & Jeff's OCD story (2:10) What worked other then ERP/CBT? (14:20) The importance of meaning (17:10) Seeing the Universe as friendly (22:45) Power of personal responsibility (26:30) How to deal with dull looming anxiety (38:00) "The only way to effectively manage uncertainty, is to embrace uncertainty?" (32:30) Advice for conquering ERP (41:40) The ultimate goal for OCD recovery (46:30) Shala's advice for changing careers and becoming a therapist (49:20) The purpose behind BeyondTheDoubt.com (56:30) The one piece of advice (59:30) What Jeff and Shala would have on their billboard (1:01:00) Find out more about Chris and Kelly: Beyond The Doubt - BeyondTheDoubt.com Twitter: Jeff / Shala Shala's website - ShalaNicely.com Jeff's initiative - Adversity to Advocacy Jeff's books: Rewind, replay, repeat (Amazon.co.uk/Amazon.com) & When in doubt, make belief (Amazon.co.uk/Amazon.com) Resources mentioned: Jon Hershfield Viktor Frankl's book Man's search for meaning (Amazon.co.uk / Amazon.com) Tamar Chansky's book Freeing Your Child from Obsessive-compulsive Disorder (Amazom.co.uk/Amazon.com) Steven Hayes' podcast episode Get exclusive podcasts and content by becoming a member of the podcast find out more here >>