What Do Digital Nomads Tell Us About The Future? - Lauren Razavi (Executive Director, Plumia)

Lauren and I first talked when I was locked down in Taiwan in 2021.  It was amazing to connect with another nomad and writer after weeks of not seeing people.  I was also a bit stuck in my book writing process and she gave me a ton of helpful hints to take my book to the next level. I was excited to interview Lauren because she just finished her own book, Global Natives about her own experience as a nomad (since 2013!) and also the past, present, and future of the movement.  I think she is one of the most thoughtful perspectives on the future of work and global mobility. Currently, Lauren is Executive Director of Plumia, the mission to build an internet country for digital nomads at SafetyWing, a Y Combinator company that raised a $35 million Series B in 2022. She is also author of the book Global Natives and writes the Counterflows newsletter) about borderless living. She tweets @LaurenRazavi. SPONSOR: CrowdHealth: You ditched the traditional path… why haven’t you ditched your traditional health insurance Experience the freedom and affordability of cash payments and community-funded healthcare with CrowdHealth. Use promo code “Boundless” during sign-up for a special discounted subscription offer. Sign Up Here Links Mentioned Path Role Model: Pia Mancini Minimum viable state Book Recommendation: Slouching Towards Bethlehem by Joan Didion Timestamps 2:01 Introduction 3:22 Lauren's Influences Growing Up 6:30 Lauren's Idea of Home 9:00 Paul on International Couples 10:24 Lauren on how she sees "place" & digital citizenship 12:44 Becoming a Digital Nomad 17:26 Paul's experience in Bali 19:34 Digital Nomads being self-reflective 23:51 The fear of asking questions about life 30:10 How everything changed in 2020 31:52 Why the remote work is here to stay 34:21 Asking better questions - Nomads and Settlers 43:52 Lauren's approach to writing - working with an editor 51:21 The most interesting experiments with countries/policies 58:23 The problem with the real estate 1:02:28 Rapid fire questions with Lauren 📕Buy Paul’s Book (Published Jan 2020): The Pathless Path 📲Connect + Follow Paul Twitter: @p_millerd Paul’s Newsletter: Subscribe to Boundless Paul’s YouTube: Subscribe 🙏Further Ways To Support The Podcast: Become a sponsor of the Podcast / Newsletter Want to upgrade your Zoom studio? Check out Kevin Shen’s Dream Studio Course Want to launch a course? Podia or Teachable are both great Web Hosting: Skystra Fast WordPress Hosting Host your own community" Circle 14-day free trial 📘 GOOD WORK: LIVE! => Learn More📕 Buy Paul’s Book (50k+ Sold): The Pathless Path😁 Join Hundreds On Unconventional Paths: Pathless Path Community📲Connect + Follow PaulTwitter: @p_millerdInstagram: @pathlesspaulPaul’s Newsletter: Subscribe to Pathless (23k+ People)Paul’s YouTube: Subscribe🙏Further Ways To Support The Podcast:Accounting, Taxes, And Payroll For Your S-Corp (Ideal for $60k+ income): CollectiveLooking for alternatives to traditional health insurance in the US? Check out CrowdhealthI use Transistor to host this podcast. It rocks. Launch Yours HereI record high-quality videos using Riverside: Sign Up Here

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The Pathless Path is hosted by Paul Millerd - a writer, creator, and consultant. He has conversations with freelancers, self-employed entrepreneurs, creators, and vagabonds who share their perspectives on their relationship with work, burnout, bootstrapping, indie hacking, remote work, reinvention, creativity, sabbaticals, leisure, self-employment, unconventional living, and digital nomadism. Past guests include Ali Abdaal, Russ Roberts, Kevin Kelly, Khe Hy, David Senra, Derek Sivers, Joe Hudson, Luke Burgis, Ben Hunt, Dan Vassallo, Steph Smith, Alex Pang, Visakan Veerasamy, Michael Ashcroft, Kyla Scalon, Trung Phan, Justin Welch, and more.