Middlesbrough expert Joe Nicholson joins James Copley to preview Sunderland clash

A weekly Sunderland AFC podcast bringing you all the latest news, views, insight and debate. Featuring Sunderland Echo writers Phil Smith, Richard Mennear, Joe Nicholson and James Copley. Head over to www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc for all of the latest SAFC-related news and content.