Ep. 162 - Security Awareness Series - What Cows Can Teach You About Infosec with John Strand
This month Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by John Strand from Black Hills Information Security. John has both consulted and taught hundreds of organizations in the areas of security, regulatory compliance, and penetration testing. He is a coveted speaker and much-loved SANS teacher. John is a contributor to the industry-shaping Penetration Testing Execution Standard and 20 Critical Controls frameworks. He enjoys mountain biking, getting hurt mountain biking, sucking at surfing, and heavy music. January 17th 2022 00:00 – Intro Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ Human Behavior Conference – https://humanbehaviorcon.com/ 02:40 – John Strand Info 03:31 - ILF 04:51 - Ryan intro 06:30 – Chat about Chris getting his company started 08:21 - How did you get started with your own company? 12:17 - Cows 14:56 – The idea of travel and never seeing your family 15:57 - What was the point where you started to feel “this company is going to work” 18:35 – Creating company loyalty 22:06 - “Pay What You Can” training 30:22 – More on how the pandemic changed workflow 34:03 – More on pay-what-you-can training – management of 5,000 people 41:41 – How can someone take action right now? 44:59 – Favorite Books Dune All the Birds In The Sky – Charlie Jane Anders - https://amzn.to/3I9lu75 We - Yevgeny Zamyatin - https://amzn.to/3Ihoy1b The Master and Margarita – Mikhail Bulgakov - https://amzn.to/3Kl6t3R The Mistborn Series – Brandon Sanderson - https://amzn.to/33qcnQH The Way of The Kings – Brandon Sanderson - https://amzn.to/3tuF1uJ 47:55 – Who is your biggest mentor Ed Skoudis 51:34 – Guest Wrap-Up 52:30 - Outro