2: They Were Failed

Today, Caroline and Liz start to discuss the fallout from the horrific attack on children in Southport. How Axel Rudakubama was able to murder and attack children when school, the police, social services, mental health workers and even the Government’s Prevent Programme knew about his obsession with violence. Among others asking questions today is the Prime Minister Keir Starmer who said what Axel Rudakubama did that day was terrorism. We’ll bring you his words. Caroline and Liz also chat to barrister and former MP, Lord Alex Carlile about the case, the public inquiry which will now take place, and whether the laws on terrorism need to change. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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