Episode 4 - West Coast Design Systems with Devon Alkire-Cussen and Karl Schultz
In 2017, Karl Schulz brought me and my Object-Oriented UX workshop to the design team at Macys.com. One of the designers on the team was Devon Alkire-Cussen, who immediately clicked with OOUX. Today, Karl is bringing object-first thinking to Atlassian and Devon is bringing OOUX to CreditKarma. In this conversation, we sit down in my beautiful San Francisco Airbnb to talk about the twists and turns of their UX journeys, what makes a great UX designer, the challenges of OOUX, and the future of our industry. Make sure to check out the swimwear company that Devon works with https://paliswim.com/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/uxhustle/support