'I have this thought sometimes: I could go faster, I could hurt more. So then I try to hurt more' - interview with ultra runner Zach Miller

Zach Miller is one of the world’s best and most exciting ultra runners with a string of impressive victories, but he is most loved for his all-out, no-holds-barred style of running, setting off in ultra marathons like they’re 5K burn-ups, sometimes winning, and sometimes failing. Zach tells us about his ultra running breakthrough while working on a cruise ship, living for 5 years off-grid halfway up a mountain, and the appeal of pushing yourself into oblivion... Produced @IAmTheHow Music Starfrosch

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Award-winning author Adharanand Finn talks to runners of every kind about the joy and experience of running. Adharanand is the author of three award-winning books, Running with the Kenyans (2012), The Way of the Runner (2014), and the Rise of the Ultra Runners (2019). Follow The Way of the Runner podcast on Instagram @thewayoftherunner The Way of the Runner podcast is sponsored by all-natural running nutrition Veloforte. Visit veloforte.com to check out their award-winning products. The podcast is also supported by Adharanand’s Patreon page, which is full of original material exclusive to signed-up patrons. To become a patron, visit www.patreon.com/adharanandfinn