'I have this thought sometimes: I could go faster, I could hurt more. So then I try to hurt more' - interview with ultra runner Zach Miller

Zach Miller is one of the world’s best and most exciting ultra runners with a string of impressive victories, but he is most loved for his all-out, no-holds-barred style of running, setting off in ultra marathons like they’re 5K burn-ups, sometimes winning, and sometimes failing. Zach tells us about his ultra running breakthrough while working on a cruise ship, living for 5 years off-grid halfway up a mountain, and the appeal of pushing yourself into oblivion... Produced @IAmTheHow Music Starfrosch

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Award-winning author Adharanand Finn talks to runners of every kind about the joy and experience of running. Adharanand is the author of three award-winning books, Running with the Kenyans (2012), The Way of the Runner (2014), and the Rise of the Ultra Runners (2019). Follow The Way of the Runner podcast on Instagram at instagram.com/thewayoftherunner The podcast is also supported by Adharanand’s Patreon page, which is full of original material exclusive to signed-up patrons. To become a patron, visit patreon.com/adharanandfinn