Ep:#84 Christian Hunt on putting ourselves in the shoes of those people we are trying to influence
This is a story that starts with a rogue trader. And then moves to what happens when you truly empathise with the other side of an equation. Today I speak with Christian Hunt, the founder of Human Risk, a Behavioural Science led Consulting and Training Firm, specialising in the fields of Ethics and Compliance. And Author of Humanizing Rules. After Christian started to “eat his regulatory cooking” after implementing it at the financial services firm UBS, his life took an interesting turn. He started to focus entirely on people’s behaviour, on what makes them tick, and what gets them doing the things they shouldn’t, and neglect to do the things they should. In this episode we talk about Danny Boyle and the Olympics, and how his opening show was a powerful example of how to get people to do things you want them to do. Christian talks about how to get the best out of people. We hear how the airline industry can teach us a lot about compliance. And then Christian brings to life how the move from authoritarian leadership to a more empowering style of leadership, although the way forward, poses more organisational risk. There is talk of the importance of experimenting, we hear where AI fits into all of this and the importance of thinking about the overall employee experience. He then leaves us with not only his most important philosophy, but also two great songs that bring to life his thinking. I promise you – this podcast about compliance is anything but boring. Even though it is rooted in one of the most boring subjects of all time! 😊 So throw on those running shoes, or grab your favourite beverage, and here is the very entertaining Christian. Please don’t forget to let us know what you think of this episode, leave a review and subscribe. If you would like to be reminded of future podcasts and other inspiring stories from TIE, join our newsletter here. If you would like to pre-order Return on Humanity: Leadership lessons from all corners of the earth, you can do that here. If you would like to buy Christian’s book Human Rules, you can do that here. Here are the songs he references on the show: Higher by The Saturdays Spotify Link: "I'm doing nothing 'Cause then at least I'm doing nothing wrong" Elegantly Wasted by INXS Spotify Link: