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In Wellington for meetings of a powerful global group of centre-right politicians, former Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison talks New Zealand’s possible admission to the elite Aukus alliance, our nuclear-free policy, China versus the US, Donald Trump, his relationships with Christopher Luxon and Dame Jacinda Ardern - and just how angry the 501 deportations made her. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tova O’Brien hosts Stuff’s political podcast holding the powerful to account and putting the concerns of real people front and centre. With regular guests Andrea Vance, picking the winners and losers of the week in Snakes and Leaders, and Luke Malpass, calling key moments for the coming week in Beehive Buzz. You can read analysis supporting this podcast on stuff.co.nz. Need more great podcasts? Check out Stuff's full catalogue here. GET IN TOUCH Email tova@stuff.co.nz. CREDITS Host and producer: Tova O'Brien. Sound design, audio editing and mixing: Connor Scott and John Ropiha. Executive producer: Chris Reed.