Red, White and Bruised. The diabolical debate.

The first US presidential debate of 2024 was at once historic, agonising, painful and deeply troubling. Have your toes unfurled? Your stomach un-knotted? Your wince de-winced? Joe Biden and Donald Trump putting the fear of god into the free world in what was a truly tough watch with, unfortunately, such incredibly high stakes. To discuss what on earth happened, the fallout and what it all says about the US political system, our special guest on the Tova podcast is Brian Tyler Cohen, avowed liberal, political commentator and host of one of the top political podcasts in the United States, No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tova O’Brien hosts Stuff’s political podcast holding the powerful to account and putting the concerns of real people front and centre. With regular guests Andrea Vance, picking the winners and losers of the week in Snakes and Leaders, and Luke Malpass, calling key moments for the coming week in Beehive Buzz. You can read analysis supporting this podcast on stuff.co.nz. Need more great podcasts? Check out Stuff's full catalogue here. GET IN TOUCH Email tova@stuff.co.nz. CREDITS Host and producer: Tova O'Brien. Sound design, audio editing and mixing: Connor Scott and John Ropiha. Executive producer: Chris Reed.