251: And Then You Eat the Ice Cream

It's Public Beta time! This week we get Jason's review of the macOS Catalina beta. Also Upstream returns (half a billion for JJ Abrams?) and Myke at the Movies calls on "Kiki's Delivery Service."

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Upgrade looks at how technology shapes our lives, from the devices in our hands and pockets to the streaming services that keep us entertained. Hosted by Jason Snell and Myke Hurley.