563: Peanut or a Banana

We've got more thoughts about Apple's current policies and legal troubles, Eddy Cue makes some surprising statements under oath, and there's suddenly an awful lot of conversation about products Apple might not release until 2027.

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Upgrade looks at how technology shapes our lives, from the devices in our hands and pockets to the streaming services that keep us entertained. Hosted by Jason Snell and Myke Hurley.