#10: Jason Mesut on Getting Diagnosed with ADHD, Coaching, And The Value of Externalisation
In this episode of the UX Fika podcast, I catch up again with Jason Mesut – creative coach, strategic consultant, and long-time shaper of designers. When we first spoke in 2021, Jason was stepping into coaching, deep into writing his ‘Shaping Design’ book, and exploring new ways of working. Four years later, we catch up on everything that’s happened since.
Jason shares why he ultimately stepped away from publishing the book, how he got diagnosed with ADHD, and how that diagnosis, and the medication, has impacted his work, creativity and public speaking.
We also talk about looping music tracks, how his approach to coaching has evolved, what he’s learned about finding focus, and about getting hands-on again, returning to old tools with a new perspective, and why community – whether it’s professional or personal – plays such a vital role.
It’s a truly honest conversation where I’ve left more pauses in than usual. Mostly for the viewing experience.
Plus:
☕️ Why almond croissant and a full fat flat white, not oat milk is his go-to fika nowadays
⭐ Why 180 House is now his favourite (fika) place
What we cover:
01:51 Navigating Personal Challenges and Growth
04:38 The Journey of Coaching and Self-Discovery
07:24 ADHD Diagnosis and Its Impact
10:15 Understanding ADHD: Traits and Misconceptions
13:26 Creativity and ADHD: Harnessing Strengths
16:20 The Role of Medication in Managing ADHD
19:03 Rejection Sensitivity and Emotional Challenges
22:05 Finding Balance: Creativity vs. Contentment
34:32 The Power of Externalization in Design
39:42 The Importance of Physical Tools in Design
43:11 Balancing Coaching and Consulting
47:02 Navigating Professional Loneliness and Community
52:06 The Role of Gratitude in Professional Life
01:07:17 Interactive Tools and Techniques in Presentations
01:09:13 Navigating New Roles and Responsibilities
01:11:06 Creative Processes and Music Production
01:12:43 The Importance of Completion in Creative Work
01:15:06 Health Journey and Dietary Changes
01:17:30 Favorite Workspaces and Productivity
01:20:09 The Meaning Behind Names and Identity
01:24:21 Hope in Design and Future Opportunities
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