How A PropCo-OpCo JV Is Repurposing A 19th Century Building For Space-as-a-Service
Subscribe to our newsletter on LinkedIn BE’s Jonathan Weinbrenn Talks Alignment In Belfast Summary: Jonathan Weinbrenn, managing director of BE.Spoke, a BE Offices company, joins Bold founder Caleb Parker for Episode 6 of Season 8 to discuss a PropCo/OpCo joint venture partnership BE has signed with Straidorn Properties to repurpose Custome House, a 58,000 SqFt iconic building dating back to 1857 in Belfast, Northern Ireland, and relaunch it with a Space-as-a-Service led strategy. See Custom House website here: https://www.beoffices.com/servicedoffice-locations/rest-of-uk/belfast Jonathan previously featured as a guest in Season 2 where he spoke with Caleb about the impact the pandemic would have on Space-as-a-Service. Jonathan believes the future of real estate lies in hospitality, technology and wellbeing. In this episode they discuss the creation and management of the new flexible workspace at the iconic Custom House in Belfast. Jonathan shares his attraction to Belfast and their exciting plans for the WELL-certified space. Caleb and Jonathan also talk about the importance of hospitality for real estate and what it means for the future of flexible workspaces. Connect with Jonathan on LinkedIn Connect with Caleb on LinkedIn If you have any questions or feedback on this episode, email podcast@workbold.co Value Bombs: It's been a really difficult period for many of us, and to see activity and deals happening in the market, and customers flooding to this segment is really encouraging - Jonathan Before we ever engage in a partnership, we want to make sure that we like each other first as that's the most important thing - Caleb Flex gives you the ability to capture a wide segment of the market and deliver tailored solutions - Jonathan For us service is at the heart of everything we do, and it's really important that we get this across when we show our spaces to people because you can't quantify that until you're a customer of a space - Jonathan It's interesting to see the flight to quality in markets, which is an overused term, but one I'm afraid that is fairly accurate, where occupiers are much more sophisticated and more demanding about placing their staff in environments that are safe and where wellbeing is at the very centre - Jonathan We have to embrace what customers want today, that's how we de-risk things and that's how we can drive value - Jonathan Timestamps: [6:11] BE.Spoke just signed a joint venture partnership with Straighthorn Properties to create and manage its new flexible workspace offering in Belfast, when do you open? [7:45] What makes Belfast so attractive to you? [8:50] Is it one hundred percent flex or will there be a traditional lease footprint in the building? [12:58] Can you tell everybody about the BE.Spoke portfolio and the hospitality you have to offer? [15:33] From what I understand, you’re going to deliver Northern Ireland’s first WELL-certified building? [17:51] Did the WELL certification take up a big percentage of your budget? How are you guys managing that? [20:22] How are you approaching the valuation topic? What are the lenders saying about this? [21:50] Danske bank led the funding for this, can you talk about what they saw in it? [23:36] Is this the first management agreement BE.Spoke has done? [25:03] Can you elaborate on what Neil thought alignment with the propco looked like? [28:14] Looking at this building and beyond, what does success look like? What’s the plan? [31:22] When creating a portfolio, do you think a sustainable approach would be partnering with the same capital partner, launching a number of assets together then exiting those assets once they’re stable? [35:53] What conferences or face to face events are you going to be attending between now and the end of the year? Resources: WELL Certification GCUC Event European Coworking Congress Event Flexible space association conference Shoutouts: BE.Spoke BE Offices Custom House Simon Rusk David Saul Straidorn Properties Danske Bank Worklife Elliot Gold Grosvenor Brentwood Workspace About Jonathan Weinbrenn: Jonathan is the managing director at BE.Spoke, a BE Offices company. He has nearly two decades of experience in the flex world and has spent his career advising companies on how their workspace can support the achievement of their business goals. Jonathan believes that real estate is not just about bricks and mortar, but rather its future lies in hospitality, technology and wellbeing. 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