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Undocumented Journalist Jose Antonio Vargas Fought to Tell His Story

This week, host June Thomas talks to Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jose Antonio Vargas. In the interview, Jose discusses the origins of a piece he wrote for the New York Times Magazine titled “My Life as an Undocumented Immigrant.” He also talks about his organization, Define American, which aims to influence how immigrants are depicted on TV, in movies, and on the national stage broadly.  After the interview, June and co-host Isaac Butler talk about which groups are still not represented adequately on TV and in movies.  In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Jose lists his favorite books about immigration and citizenship.  Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Big Mood, Little Mood—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now at Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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Hosts Rumaan Alam, Isaac Butler, and June Thomas interview creative people about how they write, compose, paint, and more.